January 1, 2010

It’s a New Year

I don’t really make resolutions, but yesterday I decided something. I haven’t sold a painting since April and I’m at a point financially where, after I finish the painting I’m working on and the ACEOs/ATCs, I have no money for canvases to create new work and since that’s the case, I must be doing something wrong or what I have been doing simply doesn’t work anymore.

The fact of the matter is that I have an audience and my audience has seen my paintings and I think everyone who’s going to buy a painting already has, or at least there has been plenty of opportunity for them to and no one has so that tells me maybe it’s time to show my paintings to a new audience and see if I do any better.

So, despite my misgivings about the site, I’ve decided to actually use the Etsy shop I registered like, almost 3 years ago, and I’ve just listed all of my paintings there. When the ACEOs are finished, I’m going to list them there as well.

I realize that a lot of people simply don’t have the money to buy paintings and I totally understand, but something you could do to help me out that’s free is that if you have an Etsy account, you could heart/favourite my shop and that would help me with my “street cred” on the site.

I figure I have basically nothing to lose by listing things on Etsy, so I might as well give it a try & see what happens. If anyone has any Etsy tips, I’d love to hear them because I have no idea wtf I’m doing.

Thanks and Happy New Year!

Posted at 4:27 pm in: Art , Money , winter

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  1. A fellow artist says:

    Here is something you may not want to hear, but you need to. You are a novice at mixed media-which is fine. Your art isn’t selling, because at this point in your art journey, it isn’t worth what you are asking. Knock it down to 50 or maybe 100 bucks a piece. It sucks, but you have to pay your dues. Like every other artist has.(We aren’t called starving artist for nothing) You haven’t any street cred. yet. So, your paintings aren’t going to fly of the shelves ever. But they will if you lower the cost. They will sell, people who have no idea who you are will take the risk .Then you will be pumped to make more. And the more you make, the more you will grow as an artist. Otherwise you will make the same stuff over and over again. Never growing. Have you looked at artist like Danita and Grittyjane? Sometimes their paintings don’t go for what even you ask for and their art is highly collectable. They are seasoned artists! It’s something to Seriously think about.

    • Sunny says:

      Thank you for your well-intentioned advice “Fellow Artist”. It would be good advice for someone who isn’t me. You see, from what you’ve said, I can tell that you don’t know me very well, nor do you know my history with this site and my selling art on it. The fact of the matter is I don’t think I’m the novice you think I am.

      For one, I’ve been selling my art on the internet via this site since 2001. That’s 9 years. Take a look at some of my earlier paintings, those ones? Most of them were mixed media and most of them I sold for years for $50-$150. I guess going by your advice, I’ve paid my dues – in spades. My very first commission? $300 + the cost of materials.

      Two, in the last 12 months I’ve sold 9 paintings at the very same prices you seem to think I have no right charging because I’m such a novice in this Somerset Studios mixed media world you think I’m a part of. (Just so we’re clear, I’m not a part of that scene.) I know who Danita is, I know who Grittyjane is, I don’t care what they get or don’t get for their paintings because they are a part of a world that I am not. I’m so sick of people thinking mixed media is this one thing when all it means is that – holy shit – you used more than one type of media in your creation. It doesn’t mean big eyed girls, shabby chic, beeswaxed creations on wood like the Somerset Studios crowd seems to think it is. As a “fellow artist”, I’m sure you know this.

      I don’t have a name yet? Well 2500 unique visitors a month to this site probably think otherwise. I’ve been at this whole internet game longer than most.

      My paintings aren’t selling because they’re priced high, I completely agree with that, but that doesn’t mean I should sell them for anything less. We’re in the middle of a major recession, it’s no coincidence that my sales dropped at exactly the same time the economy really went to shit. I’ve spoken to my customers and my audience and I’ve asked them “how much do you think I should charge for this?” and these are the prices they all agreed on. Also? While my originals may not be “flying off the shelves”, I do happen to have 3 commissions lined up for the next few months and if I didn’t have a “name” and if people didn’t like my work, that would never have happened. I’m a slow painter, 3 commissions over a few months (plus working on originals and ACEOs) is all I can handle, so I guess you could say I’m up to my ass in work. Oh, and I’m charging similar prices to the ones you object to because I’m such a “novice” in this mixed media world you think I’m a part of.

      I don’t know if my work is collectible or not, but what I do know is that I have a lot of repeat customers when the money’s available and I’d rather not sell a painting at all than mark it down. That means you have no faith in your work and I happen to have a lot of faith in my work, so these are the prices I charge.

      Anyway, thanks again for the well-intentioned advice and Happy New Year!

    • Sunny says:

      Upon further reflection of your comments, I wonder if perhaps you meant that I don’t have a “name” in the Etsy world, and if that’s the case then you would be correct. But that was the exact point of this post, asking how in this new year that’s going to be one of my goals and how to go about doing it and I got excellent advice on how to do that on Live Journal where most of my comments and conversations happen.

      So again, thank you for the well-intended advice, I just think it was a little misguided.

  2. A fellow Artist says:

    Whoa. Chill Sunny. I am just stating that by the looks of your work (suzi inspired-whether YOU like it or not) is NOVICE. Naive, primitive, still VERY fucking beautiful in it’s own right..but whatever. MIxed Media is uh DUH the mixing of mediums, such as acrylics, collage, colored pencils. Grittyjane is a painter not a mixed media artist. You are in fact a mixed media artist, no pin holing. That is what you are.
    Sommerset Studio is collage crap. Beeswax? I never said shit about that.
    Your art is worth every penny you want, but the fact is, you should just suck it up. You hang on to those paintings for much longer and your skills will go NO where. Don’t you think if you sold them all for at least $100 bucks each, you would feel the need to churn your art out quicker? You are slow because they aren’t selling. The economic times have crap to do with it.
    I was given this advice, and it pissed me the fuck off too. But I was glad when I did finally listen.

    • Sunny says:

      I’ve never hid the fact that my work is Suzi-inspired, she was my teacher! Again, if you look at my earlier paintings, you can see that I’d been trying to make girls like these for a long time, but it wasn’t until Suzi taught me these skills that I was finally able to. As I said at the time, Suzi taught me to do what I was already doing, better. Anyone who’s been following me or my site or my art for the past 9 years knows this. It’s nothing I’m ashamed of, it’s nothing I hide and it’s not a fact I don’t like, it’s just a fact. I do however, believe my work and Suzi’s is very different and that’s something Suzi herself believes also because she’s said it with her own two lips. (During the whole Willowing fiasco.)

      “Novice: a person who is new to the circumstances, work, etc., in which he or she is placed; beginner; tyro: a novice in politics.” – Dictionary.com I’ve been working in mixed media for 9 YEARS, how am I a novice? Yes, I’ve only been doing these girls for about a year & a half but they’re consistent and in my opinion, as well as others’, consistently good. If you were to tell me I was a novice when I made my first paintings for Les Petite Dolls (which I sold the day I posted them online, btw, for $220 a piece), I would have agreed with you, but at this point I’ve made enough of them that I’m pretty sure I’ve perfected my technique.

      And how are they naive or primitive? I’m not understanding your words here. Suzi’s are naive and primitive (intentionally) and mine don’t look like hers, so I’m not quite sure what you’re talking about. I’d say, especially compared to Suzi’s and compared to those who emulate her, mine are actually pretty damn polished.

      And no, my slow painting has nothing to do with my sales, I don’t even know how that could be a factor. My slow painting is due to my process, my limited space and the fact that I’m surrounded by children for a good part of my time. It takes me approx. 2 weeks to complete a painting, if not 3, although usually I work on 2 at a time. Why it takes so long is because each painting has a minimum of 11 layers and a lot of time is spent waiting around for those layers to dry so I can go on to the next one. If there’s a third week, it’s usually because I hate doing arms with a burning passion and tend to procrastinate on getting them done. None of that has anything to do with sales or money and whether things are selling or not, I’m always working on something so I don’t see your point on this topic as being very valid.

      OF COURSE the paintings would sell better if they were priced lower, that’s simple economics, but my time is worth money too and to suddenly sell them for lower than I’ve been charging all along is a slap in the face to the customers who have already bought paintings at these prices and who will probably buy again. I’m not in this to “churn out my art quicker”. I’m an artist, not a factory. I get an idea, I get inspired, I make it happen, it’s as simple as that.

      I have no idea how you figure that if I hold onto these paintings much longer my skills will supposedly go “NO where”. You’re gonna have to explain that one to me.

      And I’m sorry if I offended you with my mini-rant on what mixed media is. I think you know the crowd I’m talking about who think what I said they think mixed media is and I made the (perhaps wrong) assumption that you were lumping me in with those people. Just so we’re clear though, their target markets and my target markets are not the same markets. I dunno if you saw my post a while back where I talk about Somerset Studio’s Artful Blogging (which is probably the worst magazine I’ve ever read) and it is not my intention to have anything to do with that crowd in any way whatsoever for precisely the same sentiment as you yourself stated. I realize we’re on the same page here with that one, I just wanted it to be out there on record.

      As I said in my previous reply, I would rather not sell a painting at all than sell it at a discount. It’s as simple as that. In April, when I find out whether or not I got this grant I applied for, depending on that outcome I plan on approaching some of the galleries local to me and THERE I’m gonna have to “suck it up”, as you say, because as you probably know, galleries take a huge cut, sometimes up to 50%. (That’s why I figured I’d try Etsy in the meantime.) I know I can’t get $500 for a painting, so I’m going to have to work with the galleries with pricing so that I get a reasonable amount for my work, but no matter what, I’m probably going to be walking away with $150 maximum for each painting going the gallery route. But that’s when you “suck it up” – to gain more exposure. Online, I’ve got exposure, I’ve got crazy exposure, what I don’t apparently have right now, is customers and people (fans, previous customers and wannabe customers) have flat out told me that times are tight right now and they simply don’t have the money to spend. So yes, the economy has everything to do with why I’m not selling right now. Art is a luxury that a lot of people simply can’t afford right now. That’s why I’m doing the ACEOs. (Well, that and I’ve never done them before and I think they’re cool.) Spending $100 on the supplies to make $30 ACEOs made a lot more sense with the current economic climate than spending that same amount on canvases to make $250 paintings that people simply can’t afford right now.

      And I’m not pissed off at your advice, as I said, I just think it’s misguided. You’ve only been around my world for what, a year, tops? You don’t know my audience (I do, though), you don’t have a dialogue with them (I do, though), you don’t know my history with selling art on the internet or what I’ve done to come up with my prices. You don’t know my creative process, you don’t know what kind of research I’ve done as far as how to sell art online (rule #1, from my research, is to never ever mark down your work after you’ve set a price), you don’t know who I do commissions for or how many I do (I say I don’t do any because I don’t like doing them, but I get sweet talked into it more than I’d like), you have no idea what you’re talking about.

      I don’t mean to be so inflammatory but it’s frustrating when someone comes out of the proverbial woodwork and, without understanding who they’re talking to or what that person does, starts basically saying “YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG”. A good example of that is “You are slow because they aren’t selling.” That’s talking out of one’s ass, plain & simple.

      I like you. You’ve left very kind comments on some of my posts over the past year or so and I’ve really appreciated them, I just think this vein of comments is completely off the mark.

      (Oh and I don’t mean this in a pissy way at all, but my comments are messed up, so if you’re wondering how I’m getting spaces between paragraphs, I’m using the [br] tag – although with pointy brackets – in between paragraphs. In my e-mail I can see your breaks, but when they post on my site, they don’t stay. I’ve asked Blake to figure out why this is 100 times, but he’s been too busy.)

  3. Iris says:

    Your right Sunny. I am wrong.

  4. Iris says:

    You are right Sunny and I am totally wrong

  5. Sondra says:

    Shine Shimmer and Sparkle are my favourites. I will be buying up a painting or three when funds will allow for sure!

    Oh yeah … I’m preggers again … due in April with a girl

    dumb dumb dumb